Could you remind me post about it?

I remember that someone was complaining about someone doing' something bad, but stopped when I asked for details. Maybe it was about Mrsynical?

Anyway - for doing something with someone who breaks the rules/is cheating , etc... I must have something more than "XXX is cheating".

It is not sensible to vote on penalties during a game in progress. The rules and penalties should be known beforehand.

I don't agree ... you cannot describe each type of cheating in rules, because they would be as long as european "constitution".

But such kind of cheating isn't described in rules - that's why I launched poll instead of just remove Kryon and Dev. From next time I won't ask but cut, because new point appeared in http://www.longturn.org/rules.

As a strong example of how bad this can be in LTXVI it is Mrsynical's team that cheated. They are ten players. I am in a team of 5. To have a majority vote to punish the cheating side when the cheats outnumber us 2 to 1 is not 'cool'.

I hear about that cheating from some time, but noone described exactly what that cheating is.

Also, note that such voting isn't limited to given game players only, but to whole LT site, so even Janq or KDE could vote here ....

First of all, it should be clear that dev has no fault. He had given me his password earlier in the game because he was away for a couple of days and he didn't know then that it was possible to delegate control. So, this vote should certainly not include him.

It isn't so clear for me. Dev gave you his password. It's very clear for me that it's fault. It doesn't matter if he did it in the past or now. It's security breach and he could change password - he didn't.

So he is guilty the same or even more as you.

I think some of us are too tense but if it will help them relax, I'll certainly accept the result of this vote as long as at least half of the players in LT17 (14 players) participate in the vote. If fewer people vote than majority won't have much meaning especially since the game is a team game. So, I suggest ending the vote after at least 14 players in the game participate in the vote, not in 5 days.

:):) . Ok, so if this voting won't have 14 voters, then I won't apply it's result , but I will make independent and authoritarian admin decision, accidentially concident with result of the poll.

Also, the punishment should not be too harsh the first time, it should increase with repetition.

It isn't first time. It happend few times in the past, we were talking how bad is it etc..., and no result. So now is time to increase of punishment ....

to avoid misunderstandings - rule #18 appeared today ...

About 50 turns ago you didn't want to peace. You prefered to join stronger allianze to beat weaker.
I told you at least 30 turns ago that I will loose that game, but you were happy of the situation. Behind triple city walls you haven't noticed that I'm loosing 3 cannons per 1 musket.
I was masochist long time to play that. And you want to beat me another 50 days .. so I will suffer slowly each day. I cannon just quit and bluemoth was online and he told me he will take my civ. Maybe playing 10 vs 5 is interesting for you, maybe Kryon's civilization has importang meaning, but his cicvilization is made only from tents under the skies. His style of play is like to prove that all you need in that game is barracks and units. No othere buildings. Absolutly nothing more. Due to LongTurn settings that awful tactics is very powerful. Yeah - the best civilization - people in tents but can produce artilleries and stealth fighters soon.
Are you wondering why I was attacking all of you last 40 turns? Simple - the best defence is attack ... you dont even know that all my cites were empty almost all time.
I told bluemoth that I wont come back - let he do what he wants with my civilization.
Most interesting things are waiting for you in lt16 ... your tactic will never lead to victory anyway.

Janq - I want your password for Longturn and warserver. You can't be such egoist and use it alone.
I dont like your vote. I will change it. I would also wrote some extra posts here :)
And on warserver I will make your reputution go down very quick. It will be awesome.

Also if we will ever play here together on LT we won't need to be on turns. Only one of us would be always enough.

I already share vision, techs and research with my team. I can see how many units they hide in a city and how much money they own.

But you don't see their orders, their production, their CMAs , their city workers placement, their city food/production/trade surpluses. They must explicite tell you about it.

What else can I gain when I use the account of a team member?

You can do move when your teammate is sleeping. You can coordinate attack in that time, when others must be all awaken on the same time .

and last but not least - you can login into their site account and do something in your teammate behalf - eg. voting.